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What would a good friend do?

September 9th, 2009 at 08:16 pm

I have a friend who lives in another city.
She is very inexperienced with men(never had a boyfriend) and does not have a relistic view of anything that has to do with men.

When she is telling me about another guy she met online, from what she is describing, I can see a lot of red flags right away and know it is not going to end well.

But I can't tell her that because she is saying this is the happiest she has ever been, she can't believe this happened to her, she is afraid to jinks it... (she is like that every time).

And again, I don't have the heart to correct her. I was right in my conclusions every single time (and I never voiced my negative opinion to her). Instead of upsetting her by telling her what I really think of them(based on her accounting of events) I do nothing. She is very upset later, when it naturally does not work out.

And I feel bad. But would telling her what I think when she is hopeful be any good? Would it be better?

I would tell what I think to any of my other girlfriends. Because I know they would understand me and could handle it. But they don't need help reading social cues and socializing with people. This girl does. And I would like to help her, but I am afraid that if I'm honest she'll be hurt.

What would you do?

8 Responses to “What would a good friend do?”

  1. mrs. Says:
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    I don't think that you can save your friend from learning life's tough lessons in love. If she is young and inexperienced this may be a phase she has to go through. Maybe make a cautionary statement, but then move on.

    My best friend has such an unrealistic expectation for a potential mate that she is still single at 45 and will probably never marry. As her best friend, I've pointed things out to her, emphasized what I see, and she hasn't learned or listened to a thing - again, it is not my job to educate or teach her anything about herself. I have, however, had to back away from situations because it can be very difficult to listen to her about her woes when she is experiencing them, and I, as her best friend, are privy to all of it.



  2. gamecock43 Says:
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    heres the thing. She has no experience with men. So she is mentally at a middle school/early high school maturity level on this thing. Young girls need experience to learn (to turn into jaded bitter older women...just kidding)- but thelearning experience is pretty critical for her to eventually find a partner. She needs to learn what she likes, doesnt like, what reactions certain acts get her- she has to learn it all. So just let her learn. Besides- women ALWAYS think that they are the exception to the rule. Her: "But I KNOW he is living with a girl- they are just roomates. I am sure of it. Guys do sometimes have female roomates."
    You: "yes, it is possible for a guy will have a female roomate but 99% of the time if he is living alone with a girl then they are in a relationship!"
    Her: "yeah, but I think these two are roomates-I can see him wanting to save money and she didnt want to live alone because she is afraid and they were friends so they decided to just live together. I could see that."
    You: "Groan. sigh."

  3. Nika Says:
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    Mrs, she is in her 30's, but never had experience. So this is very difficult for her. Plus, she does not have friends where she lives - and does not go out on a regular basis with anyone, male or female.

    Gamecock, I understand what you are saying.
    The guy had 2 DUIs, lost his licence, has to be driven everywhere and she saw him drink 10 beers at his birthday party and all his friends were totally drunk... I cautiosly asked if she thinks he may have a drinking problem. She said of course not, this was a party. He does not drink that much every time.

    For me, 2 DUIs and revocked lisence alone would have done it. I mean if he did not learn after the first one... But would saying this to her help? Probably not, right?

  4. mrs. Says:
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    At this point, sounds like she would be setting herself for relationship failure. I would guess that she has low self esteem as evidence in her denial and finding this behavior totally acceptable.

    I would suggest that she go into counseling to get some professional help to overcome a social phobia (my guess). And I'd suggest she join a singles group at a church - at least the crop of potential mates should be several rungs above this present choice.

  5. miz pat Says:
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    Look, I married a man who cheated on me for years, and I didn't hear about it until he left me for another woman. Then all my friends told me about him coming onto them, or cheating or lieing, etc. etc. I wish to the Good Lord that someone had not worried about me being upset, and been more worried about me ending up in an abusive relationship.

    Tell your friend the truth, do it tactfully and kindly with love. Explain it doesn't mean that she is a bad person, but you see things about him that could be very bad.

  6. lizajane Says:
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    That's a tough one. As a friend you want to say the right thing, but you don't want to say the wrong thing either. You said this "guy had 2 DUIs, lost his licence, has to be driven everywhere and she saw him drink 10 beers at his birthday party and all his friends were totally drunk." Is she dating my step-son?!? LOL...even if it's not a laughing matter. She may be too eager because it's a new experience for her, and also may have some of that "I can save him" mentality. If he is younger than her, he may grow out of being the party animal. If he's also in his 30's, the behavior might be ingrained. Ask her to picture her future with this guy in 5 years? 10 years? As a potential father to children? I know that's probably rushing things and she may not be thinking that far down the road, but days turn into weeks, and weeks into months, and months into years. If she's wasting time with him, she might be missing out on a more meaningful relationship where she doesn't have to "take care" of someone like that.

  7. whitestripe Says:
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    this would be a situation where i would personally just sit back and let it happen. it is a learning experience for her, and hopefully will make her stronger in the long run. the best friend you can be is to be someone who is there for her if it falls apart.

  8. Broken Arrow Says:
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    When you can't prevent a friend from taking a fall, the next best thing to do is to help ensure a softer landing.

    Funny thing, but I also know guys that I think have very unrealistic views of women. Their views would be laughable in a sitcom if it wasn't real and they are sadly serious.

    With guys though, we're all used to some level of critique and jabbing so... I think it's a lot easier to approach than your friend.

    Still, usually, I would go with along the lines of, "Listen. I am hoping this all works now. But just to minimize the chance of any mishaps, I just want to run a couple of ideas across you for you to protect yourself. Because you know how online is and all those crazy predators out there."

    That sort of thing. Again, the idea is not so much to stop your friend as it is to try to soften the damage from the potential crash.

    Edit: Excuse me? This guy has 2 DUIs and can hold down 10 beers at a single sitting? Um... ok. Far be it for me to judge but uh... that's a huge red flag. Hope he's not an angry drunk (let along just manipulative).

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